Anonymous said: We are thinking of coating our 1927 stucco house in Oakland, CA with Dryvit. Are you familiar with that product and do you have any recommendations about it?
I highly recommend Dryvit coatings for any refurbishing project. Check out Dryvit.com and look into their DryvitCare program. This will help you research and provide some insight into what is all involved with your type of project. Finally, I would check Dryvit.com to find a local distributor. Call them for a few names of some local recommended contractors to get quotes. Good Luck!
Anonymous said: Hey Joe - you've probably had this question a billion times but what the heck, I'll give it a go...I have a 1986 home with original stucco (unpainted). There are some small cracks in the stucco but nothing too bad. It has a coarse finish. I want to update the look of the home with a new color and smoother finish. Im in Alberta Canada, where the temps go from -22 to +86 degrees through the yr. Should I replace it or recoat it. What procedure do you recomend? civilDOTtechnologistATgmailDOTcom
I would recommend re-skimming the existing stucco with an EIFS base coat and refinishing with an acrylic finish. The base coat will fill the existing coarse finish to give you a new surface to run your finish over. At this point you can choose any texture you want, tinted to whatever color you desire.
The temperature is only relevant during the application process. These products require water to be mixed, so you should have this work done when the temperature is above 40 degrees. I don’t know what type of time window this gives you, but it will yield better results if you wait for the right weather.
This is only my opinion. Please contact Dryvit or any of the stucco manufacturers to get their recommendations as well. Thanks.
Anonymous said: have you found a good site that cross references colors between manufacturers? I have a finestone sample with Color FS-9333 that I'd like to know the Dryvit equivalent of. I typically specify a Dryvit color name but end up with Parex or Sto being installed. thanks
There is no site to cross reference colors. Each manufacturer matches their competitors colors daily and then saves these matches into their database. We, as distributors, have access to this database so we can look up these colors. I would contact Dryvit or your local Dryvit distributor to request a sample of FS-9333. They will send it to you and now you have the color sample in Dryvit finish.
I would also recommend contacting the manufacturers and requesting a color chart from each. This is a quick way to compare colors and find their respective equivalent. Thanks - Joe
Anonymous said: Hello-I need to repair several woodpecker holes in EIFS(Dryvit?) columns on my house. I have put 'Great Stuff' in the holes. Is it okay to use DAP all-purpose stucco patch as the base coat to hold the fiberglass mesh tape? Also, I have had one contractor tell me that the EIFS has been painted and another thinks not. Is there a sure way to tell? Thank you.
I would not use DAP stucco patch to repair the holes in your EIFS. The DAP product is for repairing hard coat stucco, not EIFS. EIFS uses a layer of EPS foam to insulate your house, so we need the base coat to be able to stick to this foam. All of the EIFS manufacturers have base coats that are also adhesives. I would recommend using one of these base coats to hold the mesh into place. Dryvit makes a product called RapidPatch that is made specifically for these types of repairs. Go to Dryvit.com and type Rapidpatch into the search function. The data sheet has application instructions, which will give you a step-by-step tutorial on how to patch a hole in your EIFS.
In order to determine if your EIFS has been painted, the best way is to get a piece of the existing finish and examine it. Since the Woodpeckers have already poked holes in your column, get up into this area and break away a small piece. Look closely at the finish or your color layer. Sometimes you can actually pick at the paint with your fingernail to chip away at it. If your chipping paint away then you know what you’ve got. It may also be apparent because the paint layer is a different shade then the original finish. Lastly, when finish is painted, it tends to lose some of its original texturing. Applying a layer of paint fills in the space left between the aggregates when the finish was originally applied and floated. So take another look at the finish on your columns and see if the texture has “smoothed”.
I really hope this helps. Please visit Dryvit.com to do your research and to find a local distributor for the RapidPatch. I would also ask the distributor for a few names of applicators to get quotes from. They can sometimes act as a character witness or screener for finding the right contractor. If your going to DIY, then youtube has become a great resource for learning more about EIFS application. Good luck!
I recently got the opportunity to become the EIFS/Stucco Product Manager at Building Specialties (L&W Supply) in Atlanta. This new opportunity gives me the chance to sell Dryvit System products, which I have described in a previous post(I thought EIFS was Dryvit?) as the Coke in the EIFS industry.
So, having traded Dr. Pepper for Coke, it is time for the rebirth of the Stucco Joe Blog! Stay tuned……
Ha! The first time I read this question, I knew it was from someone familiar with the EIFS industry. In addition, I knew it was someone trying to get a rise out of Stucco Joe. It occurred to me, however, that this was also a great opportunity to provide an overview of the EIFS industry as I see it.
The best way for me to describe the EIFS industry is by comparing it to the soft drink business. The EIFS industry has a Coke and Pepsi, which is Dryvit and Sto Corp. respectively, and then a number of lesser-know brands vying for the rest of the market. These brands rely more on their distribution network, strong regional brand awareness or as a lower price alternative. For each Dr. Pepper, RC Cola, Mountain Dew, Fanta and so on; the EIFS business has comparable brands like Parex, Finestone, Senergy, Masterwall, etc. which compete for the remaining market share left in this oligopoly.
Dryvit is widely used as a term to decribe EIFS, much like someone ordering soda at a restaurant would use the term Coke. Coke’s and Dryvit’s brand equity in their respective industries have made their names synonymous with the products themselves. As a Sale Rep. for a distributor representing the Parex brand, hopefully you are now understanding my reluctancy to answer today’s blog question as I mentioned earlier.
The way EIFS products are chosen as a building’s exterior is through architectural design and the subsequent architect specification assigned to that design. The specification lists all products, approved by the architect, that can be used on the project. So whenever an architect designs a building with EIFS as the cladding, they will list which brands mentioned above are eligible. Getting back to the soft drinks analogy, imagine walking into your local Fast Food restaurant and ordering a coke. They give you a cup and direct you to the soda fountain while you wait for your order. When you approach the soda the usual suspects are always there. Coke and Pepsi are an option on every fountain, Dr. Pepper is on most, Mountain Dew on less, RC Cola never. Now lets superimpose those soda options with EIFS brands listed in an architects specification. Dryvit and Sto are listed on practically all the specifications with Parex, Finestone, Senergy, Masterwall appearing less and less as you work your way down the line as listed.
Welcome to my world. My job is to sell Parex to the customer and subsequently help them get it approved by the architect whenever their name doesn’t appear on the specification. I consider Parex to be the Dr. Pepper of the EIFS business, not always an option at the fountain, but if there, it gets it’s fair share of use over the companies with stronger brands. So, to truly answer the original question posted on the Stucco Joe Blog, Dryvit has certainly done an excellent job of developing themselves into a major player in the EIFS business. However, to use their name in a way to describe EIFS in general, tells me you’re not up-to-date in your knowledge of the industry. It also tells me you are probably a Coke drinker, set in your ways, not thirsting for knowledge of what else may be out there. Hopefully, next time you face that fountain, you’ll go for the Dr. Pepper.